Comments on: Human Rights Court under fire http://michaelberendt.blogactiv.eu/2012/01/26/human-rights-court-under-fire/ Blogging commentary on current events from the perspective of someone who has been closely involved with the policies, the policy-makers and the whole complex network of people who make the process of European integration so exciting and absorbing. Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:29:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Johannes Franke http://michaelberendt.blogactiv.eu/2012/01/26/human-rights-court-under-fire/#comment-237 Johannes Franke Fri, 16 Mar 2012 14:11:29 +0000 http://michaelberendt.blogactiv.eu/?p=356#comment-237 ...Talking about human rights, I got a little hint: There is an exciting documentary project: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MWaaK0fDJA A film crew accompanies a human rights seminar for young adults from Belarus, Germany and Ukraine, where the participants get the necessary know-how to realize human rights campaigns. The documentary will show the progress of the project and portraits the generation, their living conditions in Central and Eastern Europe, and the limitations they have to face. The Project urgently needs financial support to finish the project. Here you can support it: http://startnext.de/en/speak-up I would be glad if you reblog this... …Talking about human rights, I got a little hint:
There is an exciting documentary project:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MWaaK0fDJA

A film crew accompanies a human rights seminar for young adults from Belarus, Germany and Ukraine, where the participants get the necessary know-how to realize human rights campaigns.
The documentary will show the progress of the project and portraits the generation, their living conditions in Central and Eastern Europe, and the limitations they have to face.

The Project urgently needs financial support to finish the project. Here you can support it: http://startnext.de/en/speak-up

I would be glad if you reblog this…

]]> By: Michael Berendt http://michaelberendt.blogactiv.eu/2012/01/26/human-rights-court-under-fire/#comment-229 Michael Berendt Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:21:28 +0000 http://michaelberendt.blogactiv.eu/?p=356#comment-229 Comparing the UK with Russia is precisely the point! The ECHR is the most effective body which exists for the extension and protection of personal freedom across the 47 countries which have signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights. You may be unconcerned about what happens beyond British shores; I am not. I accept that the further east we look, the more difficult is the task of implementation, but if a founding member of the Convention on Human Rights like Britain were to ignore ECHR judgements or declare certain areas out of bounds, then it would completely undermine the Court’s effectiveness in protecting individuals across Europe from arbitrary state control. The provisions against torture, for instance, are potentially important to all of us. Of course in Britain the European Convention of Human Rights is already applied through the Human Rights Act (not to be confused with the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, from which the UK has an opt-out) with a right of appeal to the ECHR. In light of your comments, you may be interested to look at the Jesse Norman and Peter Oborne <a href="http://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/policy/reports/churchill-s-legacy-the-conservative-case-for-the-hra-october-2009.pdf" rel="nofollow">pamphlet</a> for Liberty, which stresses the grounding of the Convention in British common law. Comparing the UK with Russia is precisely the point! The ECHR is the most effective body which exists for the extension and protection of personal freedom across the 47 countries which have signed up to the European Convention on Human Rights. You may be unconcerned about what happens beyond British shores; I am not.
I accept that the further east we look, the more difficult is the task of implementation, but if a founding member of the Convention on Human Rights like Britain were to ignore ECHR judgements or declare certain areas out of bounds, then it would completely undermine the Court’s effectiveness in protecting individuals across Europe from arbitrary state control. The provisions against torture, for instance, are potentially important to all of us.
Of course in Britain the European Convention of Human Rights is already applied through the Human Rights Act (not to be confused with the EU Charter of Fundamental Rights, from which the UK has an opt-out) with a right of appeal to the ECHR. In light of your comments, you may be interested to look at the Jesse Norman and Peter Oborne pamphlet for Liberty, which stresses the grounding of the Convention in British common law.

]]> By: George Mc http://michaelberendt.blogactiv.eu/2012/01/26/human-rights-court-under-fire/#comment-228 George Mc Fri, 27 Jan 2012 22:51:16 +0000 http://michaelberendt.blogactiv.eu/?p=356#comment-228 Michael Berendt misses the point totally by comparing UK with Russia when it comes to the number of complaints and application of the European Law on Human Rights. How can you compare the likes of the UK which was a founder member of the European Court with Russia where even the Electoral Law is fiddled by a totalitarian state? I agree with Cameron that local courts should have some room to recognise each state’s history and any special circumstances. In order for this to happen it may be that the UK may have to incorporate ECofHR laws into a constitution for the UK. It is also ridiculous to say that there is not a problem because only 8 judgements were upheld against the UK. It is not the number that matter but the repercussions of the ones we lose. How when we are fighting a battle against terrorism can we not be allowed to deport/Jail someone who has clearly stated that he wants to harm the UK and its citizens. Why should the developed nations within the Europe have to accept a judgement from say a Bulgarian judge when the law in that country is a couple of centuries in the past? Why should be we be unable to deport someone who has raped one of our citizens but has been allowed to stay because he has since married and had a child and is therefore entitled to a 'family life'. How ridiculous and yes you have guessed it he has raped again. I am sorry if we come across as superior but of course we are Michael and you are right, we don't like Oicks interfering where they are not needed. The ECofHR and the EU have one thing in common we should all agree that they are better off without the UK, please! Michael Berendt misses the point totally by comparing UK with Russia when it comes to the number of complaints and application of the European Law on Human Rights. How can you compare the likes of the UK which was a founder member of the European Court with Russia where even the Electoral Law is fiddled by a totalitarian state?

I agree with Cameron that local courts should have some room to recognise each state’s history and any special circumstances. In order for this to happen it may be that the UK may have to incorporate ECofHR laws into a constitution for the UK.

It is also ridiculous to say that there is not a problem because only 8 judgements were upheld against the UK. It is not the number that matter but the repercussions of the ones we lose. How when we are fighting a battle against terrorism can we not be allowed to deport/Jail someone who has clearly stated that he wants to harm the UK and its citizens. Why should the developed nations within the Europe have to accept a judgement from say a Bulgarian judge when the law in that country is a couple of centuries in the past?

Why should be we be unable to deport someone who has raped one of our citizens but has been allowed to stay because he has since married and had a child and is therefore entitled to a ‘family life’. How ridiculous and yes you have guessed it he has raped again.

I am sorry if we come across as superior but of course we are Michael and you are right, we don’t like Oicks interfering where they are not needed.

The ECofHR and the EU have one thing in common we should all agree that they are better off without the UK, please!

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